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Kolko Trial Set To Begin This Monday

5/2/2013

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Yosef Kolko goes on trial on charges of allegedly sexually abusing an 11-12-year-old boy. The trial will be held in front of Judge Hodgson

9:00 on Monday, April 29 in the Civil Division of the Superior Court, Courtroom 16, 120 Cooper Ave., Toms River, NJ 08753 (case # 10-06-1181i).Let us hope that whatever happens it will help begin a healing process for a family that has suffered through a terrible tragedy and received little support in trying to bring closure to a painful situation.  Hopefully there will be no more intimidation or threats, and we will  let the judge decide the outcome to a very unfortunate case.

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confused
4/28/2013 01:19:49 am

civil or criminal?

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lakewood resident
4/28/2013 01:41:32 am

child molestors are the lowest creeps that need to be put away behind bars forever. Hopefully justice will prevail and if found guilty he will be kept away from doing this to any other child. My sympathy goes out to this family for having to endure not only a crime against their child but also no support from those who should be rallying arround them and should be voicing their disgust with the pervert that did this to their child

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Me Ani
4/28/2013 02:13:38 am

The trial is on Hooper Avenue, not Cooper!

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
4/29/2013 01:37:55 am

I will not attend but when I hear things from folks who are attending I will post and Tweet from @frumFollies using the hashtag #YosefKolkoTrial. For some more details about the case see,
http://frumfollies.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/trial-of-yosef-kolko-of-lakewood-starts-on-monday-april-29/

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Yerachmiel Lopin
4/29/2013 01:38:24 am

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to the last guy
4/29/2013 10:22:46 am

why would anyone care if you attend or not?

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
4/30/2013 10:18:56 am

Read the second half of the sentence before you play oberchuchum and wit. If you comment when only reading half the sentence you come off, not as a wit, but a half wit!

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
4/30/2013 06:29:42 am

Kolko Trial starts tommorrow http://wp.me/pFbfD-16N

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/1/2013 12:39:25 am

Jury selection started this morning. Plea bargain no longer possible.
No plea bargain in Yosef Kolko case. Window closed when jury selection started this morning. http://frumfollies.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/jury-is-in-process-of-being-selected-in-yosef-kolko-lakewood-trial/

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Mad Max
5/2/2013 02:55:17 am

Can this be moved back to the front page?

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yankel
5/2/2013 06:14:46 am

This case is not so simple. Innocent until proven guilty. He has no history of this behavior no one came out of the framework to say hey me 2 I was abused by this fellow. He will walk and a lot of town will be called to testify. Big bizyaoinus all around.

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kweansmom
5/7/2013 11:37:34 pm

That's what they said about Weberman, too.

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joey
5/2/2013 12:36:40 pm

plenty of people vame forward, bit only one had enough evidence to come to trial with.

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/2/2013 11:08:10 pm

Jury selection is still in process. Opening statements by prosecutor and defense are expected on Wed afternoon (May 8) or Thursday morning. But this depends on jury selection staying on schedule.

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yankel
5/3/2013 01:43:58 am

Thats not true nobody except the accuser came forward w/ accusations against him. he taught many years and was involoved w kids nobody except this accusation. He will walk and big bizyaoinus all around.

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/3/2013 06:53:42 am

Do the victims of rapists in Lakewood go to you to talk. There are so many issues of shanda and shidduch that they are very careful about who they tell. There are other victims. The thing is that all of klall yisroel in Lakewood, holds from Nachshon Ben Aminadav. They let one erlich yid have the courage to go into the dangerous waters since they figure one witness is enough to convict him and put him away long enough to protect children.

Baruch hashem, a talmid chacham and erlich yid put toiras moshe, and the chiyuv of lo saamod way ahead of his personal kavod and parnassah.

Sadly, too many people in Lakewood claim to believe in hashem and toirah but worship the moilech of shidichim and sacrifice their children to this moilech, loi aleynu.

IT would be better if two victims went to court, but remember Tshuvas H’Rashba, quoted by the Bait Yosef (Yosef Karo) in Choshen Mishpat 386.

These words (all of Hilchos Aidus) were only said when there exists Sanhedrin, mandated as such by the Torah. However, with the law of the land we disregard all these Halachas (Hilchos Aidus), for their laws, (Dina D’malchusa), are a means to seek out the truth, and they (the defendants) are punished according to the law of the land. (This is true) even with witnesses that are relatives, even when the defendant incriminates himself, even without a warning (withou hasra’a), for their laws are a means to seek out the truth. For if you don’t say so, but you’d rather uphold all the laws of the land according to the standards of the Torah when a Sanhedrin exists, the world would be destroyed; for the deceitful and their cohorts would spread (exponentially)…And even greater (than this example) we find that R’ Eliezar son of R’ Shimon captured and jailed (Jewish thieves) and punished them…So this definitely proves what I have previously said…, for a king with the way he structures the laws upholds the land.

So stop with the nonsense about no second witness. Be thankful that there is one witness with a father who not only knows the shulchan aruch and poskim better than you, but with the erlichkeit to follow it.

Kein Yirbu Biyisroel.

BTW, maybe with more molesters put away the at-risk and OTD rate would be so high az ain bayis sheayn bo mais.

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/4/2013 04:17:13 pm

Please correct the last sentence of my comment above. It should have read:


BTW, maybe with more molesters put away the at-risk and OTD rate would NOT be so high az ain bayis sheayn bo mais.

Judy
10/6/2013 04:01:18 am

On a tangent, I found interesting your analogy re: Molech, because I myself always used that analogy to describe the way the community worships the avodah zorah of the so-called "modern" medical system that's imported from ancient Sedom (I.E. one-size fits all). Rav Dessler once described it as primitive. Yet from Jewish geriatrics are sacrificed on the altar of the Molech which nowadays takes the form of brutal, barbaric COLD doctors, Big Pharma, barbaric hospital personnel, and barbaric nursing homes.

Jake
5/3/2013 02:26:30 am


Kolko Trial Update- Jury Selection Continues

05/03/2013


Thursday, May 2 was taken up with the selection of the jury trying Rabbi Yosef Kolko which will include four alternates. Jury selection will resume Tuesday, May 7 at 2 p.m. Opening statements will probably be delivered Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning. The trial is expected to run for about three weeks

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/4/2013 03:11:56 pm

http://frumfollies.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/asbury-park-press-has-begun-coverage-of-yosef-kolko-trial/

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ILoveLakewood
5/5/2013 11:23:00 pm

Rosh Yeshiva's should not be running the politics of any town, politics should be left to lay-people. Did Reb Moishe tell people who to vote for? Did he force people to go to TV Asiffa's?

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Chaim
5/6/2013 03:19:24 am

Mr. Lopin every OTD was abused. Is that wher eyou are comnig from? Your talkin nonsense. They are OTD for many reasons. According to you all of them were molested.... Wow. Can you back that up? You say all of Lakewood was molested by Kolko but no one said anything but when it comes to OTD you know they were all moloseted. Your a walking contradiction!

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/6/2013 04:32:10 am

Chaim, I did not say or imply that "every OTD was abused." However, if Lakewood is like most communities, 10-20% of children were sexually abused, usually by a trusted older member of their community. For those that are abused, the very older person who should be a positive role model now becomes a symbol of oppression. I am sure you would agree that more children would reject their religious upbringing if 20% of them saw their role models eating cheeseburgers. Why shouldnt sexual abuse affect them the same way or even more so.

Chaim, please, if you want to criticize me stick to what I say. Surely you can distinguish between the idea of "some" and "all." Surely you can reason well enough to know there is no steerah between your statement that "They are OTD for many reasons" and my statement "Maybe with more molesters put away the at-risk and OTD rate would NOT be so high."

Let me ask you Chaim, "Do you think that in some cases, a boy who was raped by his frum teacher might end up giving up being frum as a result?" Note-I am not asking about what happens every time, just whether it happens as a result some time. I await your answer.

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Chaim
5/6/2013 02:39:59 pm

I fully agree that if s/o was raped by his teacher he would go off the deep end. But you seem to have a vandeta and to be honest I am sick of it that people like you go around saying 20% of kids are abused. I live in Lakewood and was involoved in chinuch for many years. I know whats going on out there. Theres no 20% of kids being abused in Lakewood.
You are insinuating that OTD is because of the "abuse" and yet YOU can't back up anything with your data as no one comes forward so how can you even say it?(do you get it from the coffee room?)

Where do you get the information from?
I know 99% of the kids are getting a wonderful chinuch what happens later why they are OTD has NOTHING to do with your "rampant" yes 20% in my books is rampant abuse.
As far as I know kids in Lakewood are not being raped by their teachers. YOU have a lot of chutzpah to say that 20% of kids in Lakewood are getting raped by their teachers.
By the way Lakewood is not like other communities (20% abuse??? how do parents send their kids to school in those communities??!
I would home school)
Again you have no data. and yes Kolko has one accuser and many more by now would have come out of the shadows but nothing....except this one case. Hes innocent until proven guilty Kolko will walk. Lots if bizyoines all around.

Judy
10/6/2013 04:18:39 am

You should tell Chaim that appearances are very deceptive. I totally agree with your 20 percent number, because I myself have been forced to deal all my life with siblings who are farfrumt on the "outside" (in the public eye, the present as hard-working, stylishly-dressed, pleasant-spoken & articulate chesed doers, as well as intelligent and brilliant). Yet behind closed doors, they'd act toward me demeaningly with narcissistic personality disorder. This disorder, underlying which is arrogance & superficiality, is part and parcel of their musical and "esthetic" personalities. By the same token, it's entirely realistic to assume that many physical abusers also are as two-faced as my emotionally-deceptive siblings. For further reading, I recommend M.Scott Peck's "People of the lie", as well as the online excerpt of "Musical Temperament" by Kemp. Also research NPD.

Judy
10/6/2013 04:19:58 am

You should tell Chaim that appearances are very deceptive. I totally agree with your 20 percent number, because I myself have been forced to deal all my life with siblings who are farfrumt on the outside (in the public eye, the present as hard-working, stylishly-dressed, pleasant-spoken & articulate chesed doers, as well as intelligent and brilliant). Yet behind closed doors, they'd act toward me demeaningly with narcissistic personality disorder. This disorder, underlying which is arrogance & superficiality, is part and parcel of their musical and esthetic personalities. By the same token, it's entirely realistic to assume that many physical abusers also are as two-faced as my emotionally-deceptive siblings. For further reading, I recommend M.Scott Peck - People of the lie, as well as the online excerpt of Musical Temperament by Kemp. Also research NPD.

Judy
10/6/2013 04:21:28 am

You should tell Chaim that appearances are very deceptive. I totally agree with your 20 percent number, because I myself have been forced to deal all my life with siblings who are farfrumt on the outside. In the public eye, they present as hard-working, stylishly-dressed, pleasant-spoken & articulate chesed doers, as well as intelligent and brilliant. Yet behind closed doors, they'd act toward me demeaningly with narcissistic personality disorder. This disorder, underlying which is arrogance and superficiality, is part and parcel of their musical and esthetic personalities. By the same token, it's entirely realistic to assume that many physical abusers also are as two-faced as my emotionally-deceptive siblings. For further reading, I recommend M.Scott Peck People of the lie, as well as the online excerpt of Musical Temperament by Kemp. Also research NPD.

Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/6/2013 09:18:43 pm

1. I have no vendetta against Yosef Kolko. If I had never heard about the alleged abuse for which he is on trial, I would never have said a bad word (or a good word about him) because I just don't know or have any negeius with him, his friends, or his enemies.

2. For you to say you are sure he is innocent and will be acquitted, implies that you know what happened b'chadrei chadarim. How can you know this? Were you his masgiach temimi, 24/7/365? The best you can say is that he does not seem guilty to you. Yes, as far as the law is concerned he is innocent until proven guilty which is why, even though he was charged he is free on bail.

3. I too know wonderful mechanchim in my family and in my experiences in Yeshiva. In my entire yeshiva experience I never had any who misbehaved sexually. But sadly, we know that a small percentage of adults do molest children. Most molesters do not stop after one child. So even if only one percent of adults molest it is possible for 10% of children to be molested. Nationally, when proper research is conducted, we find 10-20% of children were molested by the time they reach eighteen.

4. You seem to argue that maybe this is true in secular society but not in a city of Torah. Halevai. Sadly it seems to happen everywhere, just like suicides and mental illness. Why this happens is not that well understood. But it happens. Usually, nobody had a clue until the nistar was niglah. Then suddenly others reveal similar stuff about the person.

5. In frum communities, once someone finally goes forward to the police, others with stories go to tell the family that nebich the same happened to me. But most frum yidden, unfortunately, care more about shidichim than about lo saamod. So the halachic burden of lo saamod falls on the few who care more about stopping a rodef. Kol hakavod to the Nachsons who step forward. All of the community gets saved by the courage of one family. But make no mistake the overwhelming majority of victims never come forward even in secular society where kids don't get kicked out of school for having the courage to suffer the embarassment and harassment in order to protect the community.

6. Lakewood could agree to allow frum researchers to do the work to find out the true rate. But we both know how the frum community does not allow such research. But talk to the pediatricians and therapists in town. They will not name anyone but will tell you that indeed there is child molesting and it affects much more than one percent of children.

7. If these things are happening it is not chutzpah to report there is a problem any more than it is chutzpah to say that there is cancer. It is bad news but only by admitting it can the problem be properly managed.

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Judy
10/6/2013 04:30:07 am

I think a more descriptive biblical analogy than Nachshon, is Pinchas.

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Yerachmiel Lopin
5/6/2013 09:44:45 pm

http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2013/05/kolko-trial-why-lakewood-establishment.html

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lakewooder
5/7/2013 03:00:56 am

"Kolko will walk"
I DONT THINK SO ,why would a family go through all this ,for what unless they have evidence that would put this guy behind bars for being a pervert?

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Chaim
5/7/2013 04:51:26 am

I dont know what happened with this Kolko but bottom line hes innocent until proven guilty. The jury m,ust find him guilty NOT by coffee room hackers or blogs. They have to prove beyond the doubt that something occurred in 'chdrai chadorim'. was s/o there 24/7? Its a he said/he said case.....
Very good chance he will walk......
Dont get me wrong but with some of these NY cases where the accused is found guilty ( and is truely guilty) and gets slap on the wrist is totally wrong with the justice system. They should serve till at least 65 when their hormones calm down.
The problem with people like you is that you make it a fact that 20% of our children are molested and all 'OTD' is because of it and its 'rampant' we must stop all this, its a growing problem. When in Lakewood its a very very small problem. You blow it out of proportion. typically in this town when theres a issue in school it gets taken care of.
You want that all the 'dirty' laundry should be aired in public so you exagarate the problem. We bh don't have the issues that the immoral surrounding society has. You bring their statistics into our community that you dont know anything about.
Just go back to your great blog that will save yiddeishkeit while spewing all these inaccuracies which you are finally admitting to.

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Yerachmiel Lopin link
5/7/2013 09:21:44 am

Chaim, unless you know the prosecution's evidence you are speculating about his liklihood of walking. But clearly your bigger issue is the feeling that I am unfairly slandering Lakewood as a whole. You seem to feel that the culture of torah protects you from having the problems of the secular world. For sure, some people, even if they have the taiyvah, dont act on it because they are yirei shomayim. Believe it or not, some secular people don't act on their tayvah for practical or ethical reasons. Still, in high quality surveys of the national population, 10-20 of young adults report they were molested at least once by the time they are 18 years old. Why are you so sure that this is not the case in Lakewood. Lets face it, the bizayon and shidduch factors lead many not to talk about it. Others are scared out of complaining because of pressures. If i lived in Lakewood and wanted my kids in Yeshiva I might not complain because I see what was done to Rabbi S. I don't know the exact percentage. You don't know it. No one knows it because most cases are concealed and the hanhalah would definitely not allow a scientific survey of the community.

so you can say you think I am wrong. I can say I think I am right based on experiences with people in lakewood who have had the experience of being abused and not talking about it or going to the police.

What I do not understand is your certainty that the problem is not much more than a rare case.

If I am right there is a toeles in raising the problem so children can be better protected and more molesters can be rooted out.

As for OTDs, let me be perfectly clear. I believe there are many factors in why that happens. I also believe most who are molested do not go OTD. However, I think you would have to agree that being molested by a close relative or a teacher would in some cases have a negative effect on frumkeit. Again neither of us have statistics, but I believe there is a relationship.

Survivor of HN
5/8/2013 06:05:26 pm

Chaim:

I am a survivor of Heshi Nussbaum from Toronto. I had him arrested last summer. Since then several more victims came forward. Now in defense of Yerachmiel myself and all of the victims I am in touch with went OTD. I went OTD a second after I was abused at 12 years old, it was done for me. The Rabbi and teacher that I loved and respected destroyed my life, my soul. So yes, sexual abuse does throw many of us OTD, I am living proof. I remain a proud Jew and a good Jew. That is my truth.

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Chaim
5/8/2013 10:44:00 pm

I am saying 100% that is s/o gets abused by s/o they trust or respect that will good chance go off the deep end. I said that in my post. The issue is Lopin is saying its rampant and theres 20% of the kids in Lakewood are getting abused and her even admits he has no gfacts to back it up. I am saying it's nonsense Done bring proof from the immoral and corrupt society that we live in. lakewood bh has a great school and camp system and the kids are doing fine.(Overall). I know ther are some minor issues that need tweaking but thats normal.

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Judy
10/6/2013 04:51:27 am

To Survivor:

My heart goes out to you, to myself, and all those who are in survivor or survival mode everywhere, as long as they're basically good people.

I know there are many who advocate Home Schooling, at least in the secular world.

But I don't agree with a closed-door, insular society either.
After all, what's to stop home-schooled kids from being abused by parents?
And what to stop nurses and caregivers from abusing the elderly?

Instead, I'm an advocate of transparency and pro-choice.
Meaning - the law should mandate that all people, from the very young to the very old - should have the CHOICE (emphasis on choice) to live in an "open kibbutz" type of setting. Sorta like bungalow colonies, except with the addition of roll-call by rotating social workers. Each day, one out of 100 or more social workers must check up personally on the welfare of each individual on his/her roll call. And privately ask - are you happy with the group of people you're living with? Do you want a chance to change settings until you find a setup you're happy in?

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Judy
10/6/2013 04:52:15 am

To Survivor:

My heart goes out to you, to myself, and all those who are in survivor or survival mode everywhere, as long as they're basically good people.

I know there are many who advocate Home Schooling, at least in the secular world.

But I don't agree with a closed-door, insular society either.
After all, what's to stop home-schooled kids from being abused by parents?
And what to stop nurses and caregivers from abusing the elderly?

Instead, I'm an advocate of transparency and pro-choice.
Meaning - the law should mandate that all people, from the very young to the very old - should have the CHOICE (emphasis on choice) to live in an "open kibbutz" type of setting. Sorta like bungalow colonies, except with the addition of roll-call by rotating social workers. Each day, one out of 100 or more social workers must check up personally on the welfare of each individual on his/her roll call. And privately ask - are you happy with the group of people you're living with? Do you want a chance to change settings until you find a setup you're happy in?

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Judy
10/6/2013 04:52:27 am

To Survivor:

My heart goes out to you, to myself, and all those who are in survivor or survival mode everywhere, as long as they're basically good people.

I know there are many who advocate Home Schooling, at least in the secular world.

But I don't agree with a closed-door, insular society either.
After all, what's to stop home-schooled kids from being abused by parents?
And what to stop nurses and caregivers from abusing the elderly?

Instead, I'm an advocate of transparency and pro-choice.
Meaning - the law should mandate that all people, from the very young to the very old - should have the CHOICE (emphasis on choice) to live in an "open kibbutz" type of setting. Sorta like bungalow colonies, except with the addition of roll-call by rotating social workers. Each day, one out of 100 or more social workers must check up personally on the welfare of each individual on his/her roll call. And privately ask - are you happy with the group of people you're living with? Do you want a chance to change settings until you find a setup you're happy in?

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Judy
10/6/2013 05:07:14 am

To Survivor:

My heart goes out to you, to myself, and all those who are in survivor or survival mode everywhere, as long as they're basically good people.

I know there are many who advocate Home Schooling, at least in the secular world.

But I don't agree with a closed-door, insular society either.
After all, what's to stop home-schooled kids from being abused by parents?
And what to stop nurses and caregivers from abusing the elderly?

Instead, I'm an advocate of transparency and pro-choice.
Meaning - the law should mandate that all people, from the very young to the very old - should have the CHOICE (emphasis on choice) to live in an "open kibbutz" type of setting. Sorta like bungalow colonies, except with the addition of roll-call by rotating social workers. Each day, one out of 100 or more social workers must check up personally on the welfare of each individual on his/her roll call. And privately ask - are you happy with the group of people you're living with? Do you want a chance to change settings until you find a setup you're happy in?

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Judie
10/6/2013 05:08:43 am

To Survivor:

My heart goes out to you, to myself, and all those who are in survivor or survival mode everywhere, as long as they're basically good people.

I know there are many who advocate Home Schooling, at least in the secular world.

But I don't agree with a closed-door, insular society either.
After all, what's to stop home-schooled kids from being abused by parents?
And what to stop nurses and caregivers from abusing the elderly?

Instead, I'm an advocate of transparency and pro-choice.
Meaning - the law should mandate that all people, from the very young to the very old - should have the CHOICE (emphasis on choice) to live in an "open kibbutz" type of setting. Sorta like bungalow colonies, except with the addition of roll-call by rotating social workers. Each day, one out of 100 or more social workers must check up personally on the welfare of each individual on his/her roll call. And privately ask - are you happy with the group of people you're living with? Do you want a chance to change settings until you find a setup you're happy in?

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